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Library Letterboxes?

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Library Letterboxes?

From: johnoballou (johnjballou@hotmail.com) | Date: 2004-09-10 15:45:53 UTC
I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at the university
I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I will have
inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would like to do,
ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.

Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library boxes in
the past?

Thanks...
jackbear


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: Rose Halter (rosmarinus@nrcengineering.com) | Date: 2004-09-10 16:38:11 UTC
It's not exactly a library box, but there is a letterbox in the
Robert Penn Warren poetry museum in Guthrie, KY. It is stored away
and you have to ask the volunteer guide to get it for you. But, when
we stopped there last month the volunteer was new and didn't know
anything about it. After touring the museum and making a donation, we
asked if she would call her "Boss." Luckily, the person on the other
end of the telephone knew about the letterbox.

If you have a similar type of set-up in mind, the library needs to
make sure that staff and volunteers know about the box.



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
wrote:
> I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
the university
> I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
will have
> inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
like to do,
> ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
>
> Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
boxes in
> the past?
>
> Thanks...
> jackbear


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: lesann847 (l-fischer@northwestern.edu) | Date: 2004-09-10 19:28:49 UTC
Hi jackbear,

I placed Smokin' Fish in my local library BoxView.asp?boxnum=8311&boxname=Smokin'_Fish>. The librarian was
very receptive and the staff has enjoyed having visitors.

When I went to ask permission, I brought the Smithsonian article, an "About
Letterboxing" FAQ sheet, and examples of other library letterboxes. The LB
had to be approved by the library board, so I was glad I had "built my case."

Acorn


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
wrote:
> I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at the
university
> I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I will have
> inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would like to do,
> ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
>
> Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library boxes in
> the past?
>
> Thanks...
> jackbear


Re: [LbNA] Library Letterboxes?

From: (mindizney@aol.com) | Date: 2004-09-10 15:34:17 UTC-04:00
I've been to two library boxes. Both were made out of key holders that
magnetically attach to the inside of the car. What the planters did was to put a
tiny stamp inside the key holder along with a tiny logbook. THen it was placed
underneath a shelf in the library. (see Maryland: McKeldin Library by the
Mobots is one) I'm not sure that the librarians really know they're there!

Music Woman


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Re: [LbNA] Library Letterboxes?

From: jamnjelly033 (jamnjelly033@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-10 20:58:48 UTC
jackbear,
This is one of the coolest library boxes I have seen. You might want
to contact Leslie, the box owner. They might have some insight for
you.
http://www.letterboxing.org/BoxView.asp?
boxnum=7104&boxname=_South_Pasadena_Series____
Good Luck,
Jam, Jelly's at school
--
- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mindizney@a... wrote:
> I've been to two library boxes. Both were made out of key holders
that
> magnetically attach to the inside of the car. What the planters
did was to put a
> tiny stamp inside the key holder along with a tiny logbook. THen
it was placed
> underneath a shelf in the library. (see Maryland: McKeldin
Library by the
> Mobots is one) I'm not sure that the librarians really know
they're there!
>
> Music Woman
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [LbNA] Library Letterboxes?

From: Doglvrs RASW (doglvrs_4@msn.com) | Date: 2004-09-11 09:19:59 UTC-04:00
This was more my thinking.....like hollowing out an old reference book and placing the goodies in there....
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Library Letterboxes?


I've been to two library boxes. Both were made out of key holders that
magnetically attach to the inside of the car. What the planters did was to put a
tiny stamp inside the key holder along with a tiny logbook. THen it was placed
underneath a shelf in the library. (see Maryland: McKeldin Library by the
Mobots is one) I'm not sure that the librarians really know they're there!

Music Woman


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Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: thedoubtfulguests (thedoubtfulguests@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-18 03:31:29 UTC
The library letterbox I saw in a hollow book, placed incognito, was
really fun, but did not last for very long. The library moves stuff
around all the time and probably discovered and removed it.

Another library had a letterboxer on staff. She placed 3 hollowed
out books with permission. The library had a problem with them
because people kept trying to check them out. They worked though.
I placed The Letterbox Book box there, also with permission. She
left and took the books with her. The staff all changed and my book
went missing after a several months.

I would like to try adding to an appropriate book as opposed to
hollowing it out and cutting out its text. Take it apart. Add
enough pages to it to hollow out and hide the stamp in. Tie the
stamp in carefully with strong ribbon. Leave enough white space on
those pages to use for the log. Rebind it (Kinkos?). It is still a
real book and can be labeled and cataloged. You might have to
replace the stamp once in a while but the library wouldn't pull it
since it's "real".

My local librarian didn't seem friendly so I have not tried this
yet.

You asked about clues. See The Letterbox Book in Northern Virginia,
Prince William County, Manassass. Fieldbook of American Wildflowers
in Loudoun County went missing pretty quickly but I think the clues
are still there.

Scarab of the Doubtful Guests


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
wrote:
> I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians
at the university
> I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
will have
> inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
like to do,
> ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
>
> Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
boxes in
> the past?
>
> Thanks...
> jackbear


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: funhog1 (funhog@pacifier.com) | Date: 2004-09-18 03:35:40 UTC
Try contacting Tom Cooch, His Kimball Library letterbox is one of the early classics in
the US. He has worked all the details out with the staff at this lovely small town Vermont
library. It has survived many years... Funhog

> > I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians
> at the university
> > I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
> will have
> > inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
> like to do,
> > ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
> boxes in
> > the past?
> >
> > Thanks...
> > jackbear


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: grumpygrinchy (ffuselier@comcast.net) | Date: 2004-09-18 03:51:34 UTC
We recently found a letterbox in a library in California. It
originally had been placed above a ceiling tile. Recovering it
required one to move a chair to that aisle, climb up on it, and move
the ceiling tile. You can imagine how unreceptive the library staff
would have been! When we went to the spot, there was a tiny note
taped to the ceiling tile directing us to the circulation desk where
we were to ask for the "secret box." The clerk gave us a huge grin,
pulled the box from a drawer and told us we were the first ever to
ask her for the box. We were the first to stamp it in 14 months.
It was fun for all involved - and the library staff approved and
were very quietly helpful.

Grumpy Grinch


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) | Date: 2004-09-18 04:23:50 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "grumpygrinchy"
wrote:
> We recently found a letterbox in a library in California. It
> originally had been placed above a ceiling tile. Recovering it
> required one to move a chair to that aisle, climb up on it, and
move
> the ceiling tile. You can imagine how unreceptive the library
staff
> would have been! When we went to the spot, there was a tiny note
> taped to the ceiling tile directing us to the circulation desk
where
> we were to ask for the "secret box." The clerk gave us a huge
grin,
> pulled the box from a drawer and told us we were the first ever to
> ask her for the box. We were the first to stamp it in 14 months.
> It was fun for all involved - and the library staff approved and
> were very quietly helpful.
>
> Grumpy Grinch

Grumpy,
I realize that you didn't mention the name of this letterbox, but
with the discription you posted it was fairly obvious to me where
the letterbox was. You basically posted a way to shortcut the clues
and spoiled the adventure and adrenalin rush a finder would attain
during the search for this letterbox. Please be cautious about
posting information about an individual letterbox. Thanks.

Don


Re: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: (mohmers@aol.com) | Date: 2004-09-18 10:15:55 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 9/17/2004 9:06:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
thedoubtfulguests@yahoo.com writes:

>
>
> Another library had a letterboxer on staff. She placed 3 hollowed
> out books with permission. The library had a problem with them
> because people kept trying to check them out
>

This can be remedied by making the letterbook a reference book that cannot be
checked out. That's what we did.


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Re: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: S Pekock (qu1xotic@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-18 09:25:10 UTC-07:00
Funny you bring ths up. Yesterday I caqme across my first Library LB in Milwaukee place by The Dragon. It is Creative Writing: the Neverending Story LB and is fantastic.

He secured the assistance of the librarian it appears. I urge you to find this LB on the web page and email him. I hope to immitate this unique LB in MA.

1/2 the Poppets

mohmers@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/17/2004 9:06:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
thedoubtfulguests@yahoo.com writes:

>
>
> Another library had a letterboxer on staff. She placed 3 hollowed
> out books with permission. The library had a problem with them
> because people kept trying to check them out
>

This can be remedied by making the letterbook a reference book that cannot be
checked out. That's what we did.


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Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: dagonell2001 (salley@klaatu.canisius.edu) | Date: 2004-09-18 20:42:26 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
wrote:
> I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
the university
> I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
will have
> inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
like to do,
> ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
>
> Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
boxes in
> the past?

The public library in Syracuse has one that's designed by the
librarians. Periodically, they change clues and locations, so I would
count them as separate finds if I could ever find one of them!
-- Dagonell the Pirate



Re: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: TeamKing (teamking@entouch.net) | Date: 2004-09-18 15:59:10 UTC-05:00
So, are most library boxes in libraries that have 'okayed' them? Can
you place without them knowing? Anyone run into any issues with this?

Thanks
TeamKing



On Sep 18, 2004, at 3:42 PM, dagonell2001 wrote:

> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
> wrote:
> > I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
> the university
> > I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
> will have
> > inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
> like to do,
> > ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
> boxes in
> > the past?
>
> The public library in Syracuse has one that's designed by the
> librarians. Periodically, they change clues and locations, so I would
> count them as separate finds if I could ever find one of them!
> -- Dagonell the Pirate
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[LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: dvn2rckr (dvn2rckr@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-18 21:12:10 UTC
Several Western Washington libraries placed letterboxes either
within their libraries and/or on the library grounds as part of the
summer youth program this past year. It appears that most, if not
all, were fully sanctioned by the library system as some of them
even have giant 'letterbox stamp' posters on the walls within that
included little tidbits about the hobby and how to find more
information on letterboxing. As I don't recognize any of the
letterbox 'planters' by name, I'm not sure if these boxes were a
result of one person's diligent coordinations with the library
system or if they were a result of just a bunch of folks who
recently learned about the hobby and were encouraged to place one at
their local libraries.

To avoid problems with disappearing boxes, it seems that most of the
boxes are hidden somewhere around the 'references' section and have
even been entered into the system as a book--complete with dewey
decimal system info and are labelled as references so people won't
inadvertantly check them out. The clues often required a multi-
stepped 'card catalog' hunt for the exact location. The containers
were often narrow/thin but large 'tin' containers that blended well
with other books on the shelf yet they were large enough to contain
the typical letterbox contents one would expect to find.

dvn2r ckr




Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: grumpygrinchy (ffuselier@comcast.net) | Date: 2004-09-19 01:09:02 UTC
I apologize if I spoiled anyone's fun. I shall be more circumspect
in the future.

Grumpy Grinch




Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: marthastewartletterboxer (nishakamada@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-19 02:48:22 UTC
My daughter and I have placed a letterbox in our local county library.
I did not ask permission although one of the librarians was the one
who showed me the book on letterboxing in the first place. I was
hoping that that librarian would be the first finder and I kept it a
secret for a couple of months until a hitchhiker showed up and I just
had to show her.
However, when I made the book, which is hollowed out, I looked
carefully at the books on the shelf and chose a book that looked like
it belonged there and I copied the exact format and typeset of the
label on the spine. I did not however give it the barcode that our
library uses so no one could check it out even if they took it up to
the desk. I also chose a book that I felt would not be likely to get
checked out, in this case the title was The Set Point Weight Loss
Cookbook. I felt like the balance between a book that no one would
want to check out and a book that would not get removed from the shelf
was a fine line.
So for a long time I kept very quiet about this and did not share it
with any of the other librarians until one day the book disappeared
from the shelf. After much to-do on my part I found out that the
librarian had told the head of our Library Friends group that she
could borrow it to show to some other people and when she was donewith
it she put it on the to-be-shelved pile! Oh Yikes I thought. But when
I called and talked to the person on duty it turns out that all the
librarians were familiar with the letterbox and it just had not been
reshelved due to it's special nature and a busy night.
So I don't know about your library, but my initial feelings were a
don't ask don't tell policy even though I felt that I was risking
losing the letterbox in exchange for not being told no. Plus I love
pushing that envelope.......
Good luck
Nisha
PS The letterbox is in Utah. Come on over, we need more boxers in this
state and if you give prior notice I will even try to get you a
special token or something in the box.



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
wrote:
> I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
the university
> I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
will have
> inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
like to do,
> ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
>
> Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
boxes in
> the past?
>
> Thanks...
> jackbear


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: Jayme (paulandjayme.duggan@verizon.net) | Date: 2004-09-19 02:53:15 UTC
California is a pretty large state so unless there is only one in
the whole state I think it is still a mystery. Besides, 14 months
is a long time to go without any finders.

Jayme


>
> Grumpy,
> I realize that you didn't mention the name of this letterbox, but
> with the discription you posted it was fairly obvious to me where
> the letterbox was. You basically posted a way to shortcut the
clues
> and spoiled the adventure and adrenalin rush a finder would attain
> during the search for this letterbox. Please be cautious about
> posting information about an individual letterbox. Thanks.
>
> Don


Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) | Date: 2004-09-19 03:05:55 UTC
Jayme,
This has nothing to do with the size of the state or how long a
letterbox has gone without finders. Short cuts,and spoilers should
never be posted on this or any other chat list. If the planter
wishes to advise about a short cut they could do so in their clues.
I'm sure that Grumpy Grinch didn't realize that he was posting
information that should not be posted, but we all should consider
what is put in our posts.

Don

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jayme"
wrote:
> California is a pretty large state so unless there is only one in
> the whole state I think it is still a mystery. Besides, 14 months
> is a long time to go without any finders.
>
> Jayme
>
>
> >



Re: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: (papeseed@tds.net) | Date: 2004-09-19 08:06:16 UTC-05:00
I work in a library, so have been watching this discussion with interest. My opinion as a librarian? Library directors would likely embrace and assist with a letterbox hidden in their library. In this day of shrinking and disappearing budgets, "gate count" is very important to prove our value and worth. The more people in the door, for whatever reason, is a good thing.

I also think, knowing the mechanics of a working library, that a secretly-placed letterbox is doomed for a short existence. It may appear to the outside world that an uncataloged mock book that looks like others near it might remain undetected for years, or that a secret magnetic container secured under a shelf would never be found, or that surely no one has touched those government document collection maps for DECADES... But, part of our library's routine maintenance is shelf-washing, which includes removing the entire collection of books from a section of shelving and giving it a good wash. Weeding is also important, so sections of "forgotten" or "never-used" materials are regularly gone through and things discarded. There is also a lot of "shifting" that goes on, as the collection grows and changes.

This being said, I should also tell you our former library director's mantra: "It is easier to ask forgiveness than permission."

And watch for a library letterbox hidden by me sometime (a librarian letterboxer is a good thing!) --Papeseed

>
> From: "marthastewartletterboxer"
> Date: 2004/09/18 Sat PM 09:48:22 CDT
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?
>
> My daughter and I have placed a letterbox in our local county library.
> I did not ask permission although one of the librarians was the one
> who showed me the book on letterboxing in the first place. I was
> hoping that that librarian would be the first finder and I kept it a
> secret for a couple of months until a hitchhiker showed up and I just
> had to show her.
> However, when I made the book, which is hollowed out, I looked
> carefully at the books on the shelf and chose a book that looked like
> it belonged there and I copied the exact format and typeset of the
> label on the spine. I did not however give it the barcode that our
> library uses so no one could check it out even if they took it up to
> the desk. I also chose a book that I felt would not be likely to get
> checked out, in this case the title was The Set Point Weight Loss
> Cookbook. I felt like the balance between a book that no one would
> want to check out and a book that would not get removed from the shelf
> was a fine line.
> So for a long time I kept very quiet about this and did not share it
> with any of the other librarians until one day the book disappeared
> from the shelf. After much to-do on my part I found out that the
> librarian had told the head of our Library Friends group that she
> could borrow it to show to some other people and when she was donewith
> it she put it on the to-be-shelved pile! Oh Yikes I thought. But when
> I called and talked to the person on duty it turns out that all the
> librarians were familiar with the letterbox and it just had not been
> reshelved due to it's special nature and a busy night.
> So I don't know about your library, but my initial feelings were a
> don't ask don't tell policy even though I felt that I was risking
> losing the letterbox in exchange for not being told no. Plus I love
> pushing that envelope.......
> Good luck
> Nisha
> PS The letterbox is in Utah. Come on over, we need more boxers in this
> state and if you give prior notice I will even try to get you a
> special token or something in the box.
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
> wrote:
> > I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
> the university
> > I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
> will have
> > inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
> like to do,
> > ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
> boxes in
> > the past?
> >
> > Thanks...
> > jackbear
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>


[LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: Mary Ellen Martel (memlili54@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-19 10:06:20 UTC-07:00
I have wondered if librarians would be concerned about people in the library with ink pads. I'd be interested to know what a letterboxing librarian has to say about that.

~ Memlili

P.S. I have talked with the head librarian in our community and she is very much in favor of having a letterbox. Now I just need to create the appropriate container!

papeseed@tds.net wrote:
I work in a library, so have been watching this discussion with interest. My opinion as a librarian? Library directors would likely embrace and assist with a letterbox hidden in their library. In this day of shrinking and disappearing budgets, "gate count" is very important to prove our value and worth. The more people in the door, for whatever reason, is a good thing.

I also think, knowing the mechanics of a working library, that a secretly-placed letterbox is doomed for a short existence. It may appear to the outside world that an uncataloged mock book that looks like others near it might remain undetected for years, or that a secret magnetic container secured under a shelf would never be found, or that surely no one has touched those government document collection maps for DECADES... But, part of our library's routine maintenance is shelf-washing, which includes removing the entire collection of books from a section of shelving and giving it a good wash. Weeding is also important, so sections of "forgotten" or "never-used" materials are regularly gone through and things discarded. There is also a lot of "shifting" that goes on, as the collection grows and changes.

This being said, I should also tell you our former library director's mantra: "It is easier to ask forgiveness than permission."

And watch for a library letterbox hidden by me sometime (a librarian letterboxer is a good thing!) --Papeseed

>
> From: "marthastewartletterboxer"
> Date: 2004/09/18 Sat PM 09:48:22 CDT
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?
>
> My daughter and I have placed a letterbox in our local county library.
> I did not ask permission although one of the librarians was the one
> who showed me the book on letterboxing in the first place. I was
> hoping that that librarian would be the first finder and I kept it a
> secret for a couple of months until a hitchhiker showed up and I just
> had to show her.
> However, when I made the book, which is hollowed out, I looked
> carefully at the books on the shelf and chose a book that looked like
> it belonged there and I copied the exact format and typeset of the
> label on the spine. I did not however give it the barcode that our
> library uses so no one could check it out even if they took it up to
> the desk. I also chose a book that I felt would not be likely to get
> checked out, in this case the title was The Set Point Weight Loss
> Cookbook. I felt like the balance between a book that no one would
> want to check out and a book that would not get removed from the shelf
> was a fine line.
> So for a long time I kept very quiet about this and did not share it
> with any of the other librarians until one day the book disappeared
> from the shelf. After much to-do on my part I found out that the
> librarian had told the head of our Library Friends group that she
> could borrow it to show to some other people and when she was donewith
> it she put it on the to-be-shelved pile! Oh Yikes I thought. But when
> I called and talked to the person on duty it turns out that all the
> librarians were familiar with the letterbox and it just had not been
> reshelved due to it's special nature and a busy night.
> So I don't know about your library, but my initial feelings were a
> don't ask don't tell policy even though I felt that I was risking
> losing the letterbox in exchange for not being told no. Plus I love
> pushing that envelope.......
> Good luck
> Nisha
> PS The letterbox is in Utah. Come on over, we need more boxers in this
> state and if you give prior notice I will even try to get you a
> special token or something in the box.
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
> wrote:
> > I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
> the university
> > I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
> will have
> > inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
> like to do,
> > ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
> boxes in
> > the past?
> >
> > Thanks...
> > jackbear
>
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[LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: floridasunsets1017 (fla-sunsets@verizon.net) | Date: 2004-09-19 19:16:37 UTC
Hey everyone! If you like these library LB's and are ever in
Florida, I highly recommend Devonpeter's "Haslam's Books." Very
challenging and very fun and a very helpful planter. I think
Devonpeter had gotten permission from the owners, and I hope she
jumps in here to add something(hint hint). My daughter and I are
working on a library box, also. I'll let you know how it goes.

Florida Sunsets


Re: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?

From: (papeseed@tds.net) | Date: 2004-09-19 20:45:22 UTC-05:00
Trust me, ink pads are probably at the bottom of the list of things we worry about coming in to the library...!!! Heck, we've even started to allow Mt. Dew and snacks, it was just too much of a hassle to keep trying to confiscate all those poor students' lifelines during finals weeks...

--Papeseed
>
> From: Mary Ellen Martel
> Date: 2004/09/19 Sun PM 12:06:20 CDT
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?
>
> I have wondered if librarians would be concerned about people in the library with ink pads. I'd be interested to know what a letterboxing librarian has to say about that.
>
> ~ Memlili
>
> P.S. I have talked with the head librarian in our community and she is very much in favor of having a letterbox. Now I just need to create the appropriate container!
>
> papeseed@tds.net wrote:
> I work in a library, so have been watching this discussion with interest. My opinion as a librarian? Library directors would likely embrace and assist with a letterbox hidden in their library. In this day of shrinking and disappearing budgets, "gate count" is very important to prove our value and worth. The more people in the door, for whatever reason, is a good thing.
>
> I also think, knowing the mechanics of a working library, that a secretly-placed letterbox is doomed for a short existence. It may appear to the outside world that an uncataloged mock book that looks like others near it might remain undetected for years, or that a secret magnetic container secured under a shelf would never be found, or that surely no one has touched those government document collection maps for DECADES... But, part of our library's routine maintenance is shelf-washing, which includes removing the entire collection of books from a section of shelving and giving it a good wash. Weeding is also important, so sections of "forgotten" or "never-used" materials are regularly gone through and things discarded. There is also a lot of "shifting" that goes on, as the collection grows and changes.
>
> This being said, I should also tell you our former library director's mantra: "It is easier to ask forgiveness than permission."
>
> And watch for a library letterbox hidden by me sometime (a librarian letterboxer is a good thing!) --Papeseed
>
> >
> > From: "marthastewartletterboxer"
> > Date: 2004/09/18 Sat PM 09:48:22 CDT
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [LbNA] Re: Library Letterboxes?
> >
> > My daughter and I have placed a letterbox in our local county library.
> > I did not ask permission although one of the librarians was the one
> > who showed me the book on letterboxing in the first place. I was
> > hoping that that librarian would be the first finder and I kept it a
> > secret for a couple of months until a hitchhiker showed up and I just
> > had to show her.
> > However, when I made the book, which is hollowed out, I looked
> > carefully at the books on the shelf and chose a book that looked like
> > it belonged there and I copied the exact format and typeset of the
> > label on the spine. I did not however give it the barcode that our
> > library uses so no one could check it out even if they took it up to
> > the desk. I also chose a book that I felt would not be likely to get
> > checked out, in this case the title was The Set Point Weight Loss
> > Cookbook. I felt like the balance between a book that no one would
> > want to check out and a book that would not get removed from the shelf
> > was a fine line.
> > So for a long time I kept very quiet about this and did not share it
> > with any of the other librarians until one day the book disappeared
> > from the shelf. After much to-do on my part I found out that the
> > librarian had told the head of our Library Friends group that she
> > could borrow it to show to some other people and when she was donewith
> > it she put it on the to-be-shelved pile! Oh Yikes I thought. But when
> > I called and talked to the person on duty it turns out that all the
> > librarians were familiar with the letterbox and it just had not been
> > reshelved due to it's special nature and a busy night.
> > So I don't know about your library, but my initial feelings were a
> > don't ask don't tell policy even though I felt that I was risking
> > losing the letterbox in exchange for not being told no. Plus I love
> > pushing that envelope.......
> > Good luck
> > Nisha
> > PS The letterbox is in Utah. Come on over, we need more boxers in this
> > state and if you give prior notice I will even try to get you a
> > special token or something in the box.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "johnoballou"
> > wrote:
> > > I am considering proposing a library letterbox to the librarians at
> > the university
> > > I work at. I want to get all my ducks in a row before I ask, so I
> > will have
> > > inforation for them about what letterboxing is about, what I would
> > like to do,
> > > ask for their input on locations and ideas for box.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any advice for me as far as successes of library
> > boxes in
> > > the past?
> > >
> > > Thanks...
> > > jackbear
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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